What's difficult about tech debt?

Featuring Liz Fong-Jones, Jean Clermont, Kurt Anderson, and Matt Davis

Series Summary

Buckle your seatbelts! We’re venturing into the SRE community to chat about reliability engineering. Join us as we dig into SRE day-to-day challenges and how it intersects with other parts of your business. We'll cover topics like What’s difficult about on-call? and How do I make sense of reliability data?  This is an honest conversation with engineers about how we apply SRE principles. Each episode features community guests. Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn to know when a new episode drops!

Episode 3: What's difficult about tech debt?

In this episode, Liz Fong-Jones, Developer Advocate at, and Jean Clermont, SRE at Flatiron, join Matt Davis and Kurt Andersen from the Blameless team to search the dark and scary corners of technical debt. What's "dark debt"? Do you have haunted graveyards? And what's the difference between debt and toil? Register to watch the full conversation!



Matt Davis
Staff Infrastructure Engineer, Blameless

Matt’s background covers distributed databases, IT security, site reliability, observability, and techops leadership. He also has a passion for exploring the relationships between the artistic mind and operating distributed software architectures.


Kurt Andersen
SRE Architect, Blameless

Kurt is a practitioner and an active thought leader in the SRE community. Kurt was a Sr. Staff SRE at LinkedIn. He’s a member of the USENIX Board of Directors and on the steering committee for SREcon.

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Jean Clermont
Sr. Program Manager, Flatiron

Jean has been exercising operational and technology risk management methodologies in both public and private service sectors. At Flatiron, he manages business resilience themed programs: Incident response, Disaster Recovery/BCP and Cybersecurity. He focuses his time on building teams and practices to respond, adapt, and learn from risk.


Liz Fong-Jones
Principal Developer Advocate,

Liz is an advocate for the SRE and Observability communities with 17+ years of experience, and previously was an SRE working on products ranging from the Google Cloud Load Balancer to Google Flights. She plays classical piano, leads an EVE Online alliance, and advocates for transgender rights.

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